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Dave Cross on the London Web Frameworks


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Dave Cross on the London Web Frameworks


posted on 2005/11/18 11:12

 

Much shorter than Simon Wistow's post to london.pm, which deserves to be lifted out of mailing list obscurity.


 

One of his points (that Perl people take DBI, and hence database independence, for granted) is borne out by the fact that when Dave talks about "overlook[ing] the one area where Catalyst scores heavily over the other frameworks - the ORM tools" he doesn't bother to mention it either.


 

As other people in that thread note, Leon and Leo will be talking about using Catalyst to build the award-winning mightyv with Catalyst; hopefully this will be a more narrative-based talk.


 

(Aside: the Backstage blog doesn't have archives past the last few items, no archive index, and no search. Having to Google to find the first URL in the previous line is a bit crap.)


 

I don't want to criticise Matt Trout too much; he seemed new to speaking, unlike the other two, and it was certainly a large, intimidating audience.


 

I wonder why the multitude of more experienced London perl people didn't put up a speaker. Maybe the feeling that this web stuff is boring, dull, below them or some variation on that has something to do with it. Or maybe they weren't asked.


hitherto:

Riffing a bit on Simon's london.pm post, and his points about mindshare, I'm convinced that part of the reason Rails is notably popular is that it has the coolest name.


 

"Catalyst" is... nice. Ish. There are undertones of it helping you to achieve what you want to. But it's dull.


 

"Django" is nonsensical.


 

But "Rails" is perfect. Short, snappy, and has beautiful associations - it's something which leads easily to a pre-defined destination, and keeps you on track...


 

I'm not even sure how to pronounce "Django". I guess you drop the 'd' and say "jango" - anything else is an abomination.


 

But it's still nonsense. Somehow it reminds me of zombo.com, and not in a particularly good way.



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